Gently roll into a ball that is a bit larger than the hole itself. 2 inches wouldn't make a huge difference. You may be able to stick the liner to the tape in the holes or you could pin it to the sides with more tape. Quote. Jul 21, 2014 · Typically, a monotub is made of a clear/transparent tote/storage tub. Try to keep co2 levels up during colonization is the standard but people sometimes throw their tub straight to fruiting conditions (from minor ge to fae , dropping temp slightly and introducing 12/12 light cycle) and it works out just fine. Fanning should be performed for approximately 30 seconds, twice per day. Can drill all the holes for a tub in like 20 seconds. Well since it is that type of tote there are 2 tiny holes on both sides of the tub that allow air in. Myself included. Currently the Jedi mind fuck tub is pinning strong andnthe second b+ tub is just starting to pin. However, this will depend on the type of species you are growing. fruits like APE i just leave the lid on. Jul 18, 2016 · A double layer is about the same as a tight stuffed hole. Say I get FAE 100% dialed in on the first flush. ). I don't like it and it's not an ideal set up for my needs. Cubensis mushrooms can be cultivated in a variety of fruiting chambers. Jul 20, 2018 · Quote: Sivarted said: I thought I saw reference to them somewhere in here but cant find it Anybody use the similar style ziploc weather shield 60 quart tubs with 6 latches? Do they have Apr 5, 2006 · The polyfill holes at the bottom are right at substrate depth to allow for CO2 expulsion/air exchange. Untape the holes and stuff them with polyfill, tight on the bottom and loose in the top holes. Monotubs: A monotub is a storage tote, with or without holes cut in it. A little bit of a thin substrate. Here are a few of the most common methods. this is just my two cents worth. (itty bitty 3 gallon monotub for testing) I don't know if it'll provide too much, or not enough fae but there's one way to find out. the bag was inoculated with shooting star LC, and then allowed to colonize. Plenty of people use smaller tubs with EZ dial. But correct me if I'm wrong, more grain in the final Apr 10, 2019 · Appreciate it, having a run of bad luck right now. 3 do casing blah . I do 1" holes that I cut with a circular saw-toothed drill bit. 4 stuff holes with polyfill, apply lid, wait, harvest. May 11, 2020 · Re: Unmodified(no holes no poly) 54q Fruiting Chamber(off the shelf monotub) TEK [Re: Poolofsouls] 1 #26668090 - 05/13/20 06:56 AM (3 years, 10 months ago ) Edit May 2, 2021 · p9hu7 said: Premature pinning will happen if you have an infection that triggers the sub to attempt reproduction via fruit production and ultimately sporulation. While colonizing, all holes are covered with tape. So gentle mist for the corners once or twice a week. and well since I never saw a how tight it should be and that it is pretty hard to see. I was wondering what size holes I should use and how many of them. they get Nov 19, 2012 · Welcome to the Shroomery Message Board! You are experiencing a small sample of what the site has to offer. The imperfect lids on these tubs is all you need for proper GE. This seems like the most recent advice. Sep 30, 2011 · Monotub hole size and placement. So I drilled holes and covered with MP tape and latched the lid. Sep 16, 2016 · You can fruit in a monotub with no holes at all if you know what you're doing. Jun 11, 2014 · So this is my tek on how to basically make filter discs for your monotub so you don't have to stuff anymore polyfil "puff balls" tightly into your bottom holes anymore. These people say they get even better yields without holes and just cracking the lid a few inches during the day to provide enough FAE. Jul 31, 2014 · The holes should remain covered until 100% colonized and/or ready to fruit. Monotubs don't need babysitting. Sep 13, 2019 · Quote: elevatedfather said: Quote: bodhisatta said: Its about to explode with pins on the top. Top holes only get one layer. Make sure you have a fan running in the room to improve FAE. and in my experience, they didnt do well when i modded them for poly holes. Let this substrate cool till its no longer hot, then mix it with your grain within the tub liner. ----- Jan 7, 2016 · Just relax man. the tub was too short for both Feb 2, 2019 · Hey ricky, I just ran my most recent batch of two bricks with 5. For the bottoms holes I need 2 layers. Remember to fan twice per day until the substrate is no longer producing mushrooms. 6-8 ounces is average and you can get even more as your skills improve, you get a good set of genetics, and use more spawn. It's for limiting FAE & keeping RH up. May 1, 2013 · So after reading some threads with people who have done these "no hole monotub" Curiosity killed the cat and I had to try it. It has 6 holes total; that's two holes on each long side just above top of substrate and a hole at each end as close to the top as possible. 3)Once the substrate reaches 170-180F turn heat to 170-180 and cook the substrate between these temperatures (170-180F) for one hour. Try to keep the overlap to a minimum, I try to not exceed 1/4" overlap. you shouldnt even need to mist before Mar 12, 2023 · Yep. 1 cup or so of spent coffee grounds. just adjust your holes/etc to dial in fae, dial in the water content of your sub etc, and you will be fine. Recently got an impulse and list a lot of grain to poor sterile procedures. 1) take all the polyfill out of the holes in your monotub. If you wanna reduce FAE or just rule out the lid a little more, you can get binder clamps or something to keep the long side lid sections shut. I'm working on my first grow, going to use polyfill on some, micropore on others, and 'wall vents' on yet another. Using diameters of 2" for top holes and 4" for bottom holes V 1 =V 2 ; 2d 1 =2d 2 A 1 =3. And no, having it air tight is not needed or recommended in any way, as it still needs some GE. Dec 10, 2013 · As I said though, if you've prepared it according to the current popular monotub recipes the substrate should be able to produce plenty of humidity on it's own. If you have a hard time (even if you don't) you should fill the holes with polyfil, as it should regulate the environment of your tub. It's not going to work out how you expect and is a bad idea in my opinion. But no holes. I'm pretty sure the bottom holes are supposed to be 1. Just did a test bag though and found that even with . When the tubs are fruiting and make spores they get so much fae there's black spore streaks all around those air holes. but if your low on mushrooms it might be worth it. Not only that but all the water you added to the substrate at the beginning should last through the first flush. no need for dubbing. How to drill monotub holes? #13983444 - 02/18/11 08:28 Mar 10, 2018 · So my first harvest was succesful Had a 60qt tub with 4 quart Spawn to one brick Coco And 30qt tub with 2 quart Spawn to half brick Coco And two quarts got fruited in their own jár because some bacterial infection Dry weight is around 140g from first flushes Pics: One question: I know right Surface conditions prevent side pining But as my sub shrink and i spray the water, droplets on the Apr 26, 2022 · Max Yield Bin is a product you can buy that is, essentially, an advanced monotub with specific hole spacing to create the described airflow effects. Home. 25" hole for my monos. 25" hole, so if I need to up the FAE I simply remove a strip from the upper portion of the bottom holes or move the top hole strips down a bit to expose some of the top hole. All my stems were nice and thick. After fanning, put the lid back on the monotub. And a little bit of a dry spot immediatly near the poly, just enough to show youre getting nice FAE. If you use larger holes you may need more layers. 1 brick of coir. 2. May 29, 2006 · Quote: musher_420 said: When you make your tub drill a hole in the very bottom corner of it that you can stick a cork into or some other type of plug (feeling like getting fancy? you can silicon on a the top of a plastic bottle and lid. straight unmodded dubs worked the best when the space was needed. Air is constantly circulating through open holes in the SGFC whereas the monotub should have polyfil in the holes during fruiting, the density of the poly-fil is up to the grower. I think you were just being impatient and coincidentally made the change when things were going to pick up on their own anyway. There are many ways to achieve this. Reading the forum the pins are falling over due to insufficient FAE. Many alter their poly density/thickness depending on their individual needs. Jan 9, 2016 · I thought you left the lid partially open for part of the day. 8 litres and it's over capacity again. No holes is best. This part of the tek is based on Monotub Tek (Ironed polyfil filters for bottom holes) and My Magnetic SAB Arm-hole Covers. May 30, 2012 · Quote. Can't really speed up the process of pinning/fruiting, maybe raise the temp by a degree or two, not above 25 C°. Easy Monotub Holes #19722839 - 03/20/14 09:33 AM (9 Feb 8, 2006 · 2 drill holes in the box, 4 at top of CASING LAYER LEVEL . Whatever suits your fancy. all i had was a small tub, and all i had was one spawn bag. Also if your really concerned fan it out once a day make sure to mist as needed. Sep 22, 2023 · I think you could probably get away with splitting it up. Hell you're not even really supposed to peek and look at things most of the time! Mar 14, 2014 · Essentially, it would be a normal monotub, no perlite. There has to be some sort of gasket or seal around the lid to make it air tight. 1 quart of verm. After incubation (at 100% colonization), the tape covering GE holes, are removed, FAE is dialed in and light is introduced to promote pinning. The yellow is basically the piss and shit from the bacteria. I have been leaving the bins with the lids slightly ajar, misting two times a day, and the bins have holes with micropore tape and the humidity stays above 80%. Mar 16, 2022 · I've been running 6-6. The classic 6 hole monotub, but instead of mixing the spawn and coir in the monotub itself, and letting it colonize, i would be mixing the spawn and coir in smaller trays, so i can colonize it elsewhere, and hold it in that state, until the trays currently occupying the monotub have Oct 30, 2009 · your coir substrate is. Mar 6, 2015 · The top holes are half the radius and diameter of the bottom holes, and there are twice as many bottom holes as top holes. Aug 23, 2013 · ^ Thank you! Yes, I'm super stocked!! Haha. So sucks in fresh air and forces out the old stale air. Aug 9, 2009 · Correct me if I am wrong, but having a monotub on the floor isn't too big of a deal compared to a SGFC on the floor. 5 will be done in a day or two So maybe the fifth flush? Feb 7, 2016 · How to shroomery like a pro! (Seriously, everyone read this!) Improve your sterile techniques! (A comprehensive guide to agar) Links upon links of literally EVERYTHING UP TO DATE AMU Q&A No trees were killed in the sending of this message. Most people just use a non-breathable tape. I use 1 1/2 pvc and cut about an inch and hot glue it in the holes to help keep the poly fill in the holes. Now we can get Nov 28, 2008 · Quick Reply. and now. The Max Yield Bin product has two available lids. 14in 2 & A 2 =12. Wet yield of 6 lbs for first flush. First flush. 2) Place trays with foil lids into oven with meat thermometers poked through the foil lid into the bottom to the substrate. I do 15qt shoeboxes that seem close to that size. Oct 3, 2018 · Before it has completely colonized the holes should be taped shut with regular tape. Quick Reply. If you see dry spots in like the middle of the tub tighten up the poly. As I stated in my PM to you, I recommend 6-8 inches of space between your top and bottom holes. Keep it closed and lay it in your tub, lining the bottom and sides. 5" holes, place 2 layers of mp tape on the bottom holes and 1 layer on the top holes. Of course you should give it direct 6500k lighting on a 12/12. Line your monotub I like to use a whole garbage bag and leave it intact. 2 drill holes in the box, 4 at top of CASING LAYER LEVEL. Sep 16, 2016 · I use a 1. Also the poly fill restricts air flow but should allow air to come in the bottom and go out the top. Just let it go and you'll be fine. When spawning your grain to bulk sub in a standard mono with 1. 2 5 cm holes on the long sides of the tub about 2-3 cm above the top of your substrate depth 1 5 cm hole on each end about 5 cm from the top of the tub. Mar 28, 2010 · both good advice but a mono is something you just let be. 5 quarts of spawn using this tek with great success. Mar 29, 2019 · And they're stuffed with nothing. Some pics after opening tub for the first time before & immediately Jun 5, 2010 · This tek is really only for monotub dunks. Your tub isnt TOTALLY screwed, but I would throw it away just because dealing with contaminated tubs is a nightmare. so im a little worried if i will get good enough FAE, with my hole placement? Dec 19, 2023 · Don't mess around with this multi-liner thing in one tub. 1 cup of gypsum (if you want, its optional like the coffee) 1 gal of water. pasteurize your substrate for and hour @ 140-160F and when its cool mix with your spawn in an 18gal monotub. It's 4 layers of polyfil roll (it's a 1/2 inch thick roll of polyfil) and iron them into a sheet to create filters. Damnit, I paid like 15 bucks a saw for my set at home depot home depot is the expensive version of lowes, and for some things, walmart Jan 10, 2017 · 2. However, a large number of electrons were terribly inconvenienced. Micropore tape does nothing to restrict air in the tub. --------------------. But all my. Finally on it's way to a nice canopy. too much fae and they dried out. 2 micron filter Aug 12, 2017 · Search Our Forums ☰ New Account | Log In | Contact Us. This locks in moisture and allows CO2 to build up. 5 add two or more holes at top of the tub so circulation between the bottom and top holes moves the air around . Generally, there is no misting involved before the first flush. I use extremely loose poly (almost falling out) w/ a small desk fan circulating air for FAE. Aug 10, 2021 · Quote: c10h12n2o said: congrats on your harvest but i dont think any of that is needed in zone 10 (or really anywhere) indoors if you dial in your tubs a monotub is basically automated as-is, plenty of people have no trouble with them in zone 10. I forgot to add that you should cover the holes with duck tape or micro-tape for the 10 days in the bag. Some of the substrate came up with it, and the layer of casing was Nov 27, 2009 · Notes: Increase field capacity a little more than usual. Can usually find in a pack of different sizes for like $6 ish. It's very understandable to think that when you have one rubbermaid tub, it's a monotub, but to me, monotub implies the same tek as the double tub, no fanning, etc. Dec 24, 2008 · 3 inch inline blower near the top for intake. 8 days at 45% is roughly average. It takes 2 strips to cover a 1. May 3, 2020 · Looks like you'll have some very nice fruits in a few days. Personally I prefer the 6 hole method. Jul 24, 2015 · This is going to be my first monotub project and I just wanted to cinch up my understanding here. You don't need to use a 66qt. Sep 6, 2016 · Four decent sized mushrooms have popped up through tiny gaps that the mycelium didn't completely colonize, but only in one corner of the tub. That way you can just fill the tub up with water to dunk your substrate after flushes and then EASILY drain Jul 31, 2014 · The holes should remain covered until 100% colonized and/or ready to fruit. Extras: Top. ----- Sep 4, 2020 · Reason I went to drill holes is because I followed Bod's unmodified tub tek, it colonized just fine but now the pins are falling over. Fan out the chamber one good time with the lid and you should be good to go. The ideal temperature inside the monotub chambers must be kept between 60°F and 80°F. The top holes should be at the top of the container. Automation. This is 3 And 3. . A small one that's fully closed (no holes) for colonizing periods and a bigger one with holes for fruiting periods. We are going to use a 9-10 cm sub depth so the center of your 5 cm holes on the sides is going Jan 3, 2018 · They get plenty of fae with just the lid upside down. When fruiting just put an empty tub on top for height. The basic concept of a monotub is to facilitate fresh air exchange (FAE) while preventing the substrate from drying out. I also saw a small mushroom emerging from the side of my tub, so I decided to pick it, mainly because it wasn't in a very good place. 5 Then regular second. Please login or register to post messages and view our exclusive members-only content. Monotubs usually have a FAE problems IME and generally after the 1st time you can add more holes where you think they're needed or whatever. With a 1. mine is from ikea. Some people use no holes at all. Is this correct? May 22, 2009 · What is do is cover all the holes with duct tape till 100% colonized then I take the tape off and stuff the holes with polyfill. Sep 7, 2013 · That does not make it air tight. Dec 4, 2012 · Here's a quick tutorial on how I make perfect little puffballs for the top holes of my monos (see pictures above) It allows for good FAE and retains tons of humidity: Spread a puffball flat on your palm, about a half inch thick at most. 57in 2 Regardless of hole diameter, A 2 =4A 1 V rate = vA v 1 A 1 =2v 2 A 2 v 2 =(v 1 A 1 )/2A 2 Mar 11, 2017 · Re: Unmodified(no holes no poly) 54q Fruiting Chamber(off the shelf monotub) TEK [Re: wowimflabbergasted] #24156718 - 03/12/17 04:58 PM (7 years, 2 months ago ) Edit Jul 11, 2023 · Yellow usually means bacteria is growing alongside the myc. Step 4: After you have introduced your monotub to fruiting conditions and a scheduled light cycle, you will see primordia start to form in Jul 30, 2013 · No need for consolidation with bulk substrates. Proper pasteurization is best--160 F for 90 minutes, but with verm/coir you can also get away with hydrating it with boiling water in a bucket and covering for 90 min--google bucket tek. Misleading information is the cause of countless failed grows Apr 23, 2012 · The polyfil in monotub holes during the Fruiting Process is not for filtering the air entering the monotub. Apr 20, 2017 · Also, he says to mist and fan, every 4 - 6 hours, go or no go? i can see that my hole placement isnt as everybody elses. I had a 1st flush, then a two days later a 1. You will have issues when they start getting tall, personally I put my shoeboxes into a larger tub with a lid and perlite when they get that far, some do dubtubs. For a 66 qt tub, I do 5-7 holes on the long sides and about 3 holes on the short sides. 5 add two or more holes at top of the tub so circulation. Many have had amazing success with no hole grows like Bod's unmodified monotub Tek, or other similar methods. #15156324 - 09/30/11 01:31 AM (12 years, 2 months ago) Edit. Advertising; Contact Us; Credits; Emergency Info; Info For Parents Sep 2, 2007 · Quote: trentallica said: hello all. Jun 13, 2017 · The grains should recover and start to make white patches on you substrate. Mar 26, 2012 · You need to cut 6 5 cm hole in your monotub. 5 inches by 12. You will need two long pieces that can reach across the width of your tub. My tub has 10 1. Don't open it, don't fan it, don't do anything. Jan 26, 2024 · Welcome to the Shroomery Message Board! You are experiencing a small sample of what the site has to offer. I have another tub side by side but they were growing all twisted and hallow density stems Jan 3, 2024 · I'm reading a lot of posts with the theme "fruiting conditions and colonizing conditions are the same" and suggesting to cover the monotub holes with micropore tape right from the start when spawning grain to bulk substrate. Jun 16, 2018 · Re: Unmodified(no holes no poly) 54q Fruiting Chamber(off the shelf monotub) TEK [Re: HerbalPotion] 1 #25274821 - 06/17/18 04:21 PM (5 years, 11 months ago ) Edit 1 get a nice tub, preferrably see-through. Oct 8, 2015 · Re: Unmodified(no holes no poly) 54q Fruiting Chamber(off the shelf monotub) TEK [Re: Leviticus969] #22679315 - 12/20/15 12:06 PM (7 years, 10 months ago ) Edit Jun 1, 2015 · Stuff the bottom holes very tight, the top 2 very loose. Apr 11, 2019 · Woke up today and found 2 little guys has dropped the veil and started sporulating, harvested about 40 fresh grams and set a couple caps on foil in the still air box. The photo shows how I stagger the holes. I got two smallish 27 quart tubs today. 4 stuff holes with polyfill, apply lid, wait, harvest Jun 13, 2012 · Quote: Project said: Yeah, hole saws work very well. Other people stuff the holes right at spawn. The placement of your holes depend on your sub depth. Just make sure you get a bare minimum of 2 1/2 inches of substrate depth in each. Dec 17, 2011 · You can absolutely have a greater number of smaller holes. Although both have holes drilled into the container, the holes in monotub containers are covered completely during the incubation phase, and semi-covered with a filter during the fruiting stage. Mar 26, 2021 · I replaced the drained cakes into the monotub, Spread some vermiculite on the surface, misted the vermiculite until it was moist and put the cakes back in fruiting conditions. I use 20qts with the default hole setup with perfect results. Jan 27, 2017 · Re: Unmodified(no holes no poly) 54q Fruiting Chamber(off the shelf monotub) TEK [Re: wildernessjunkie] #24056492 - 02/01/17 06:50 AM (6 years, 8 months ago ) Edit Jan 14, 2020 · That thick creamy white growth is typical of bacterial infection: cubensis won the fight during your dry period congrats lol . It should be in a garbage bag for about 10 days to colonize to the sub then taken out and if ready stuff your holes with poly-fil. It's a bit different than poly bit I have be experimenting with it a bit. 25" diameter hole and 1" tape you will need 2 pieces per layer to get enough coverage. 5" wide and top are 1". The dimensions are 13. i just finished my very first mono tub. If you keep the ratio down to 1:3 or lower Feb 18, 2011 · Welcome to the Shroomery Message Board! You are experiencing a small sample of what the site has to offer. Fold it in half. Heck you might even have a small issue with the corners drying out because they get so much air exchange. I was wondering how to know how tight polyfill should be in monotub's holes. Picture 6 looks slightly concerning the dark corner. We refereed to monos as "set and forget". Added at least 2 quarts vermiculite and I am about to open another bag of verm because it's Jan 25, 2017 · nope. You should target a tub that has a total depth of 12-14 inches to prevent air stagnation. Reply. Jan 18, 2016 · This tub was introduced to fruiting conditions way back on the 4th of January. I either just leave the lids on or dub them. I don't even use polyfil for the top holes. between the bottom and top holes moves the air around. the bag was then cased right in the bag, and the bag placed in a tub. BOD's Easy AF UnBODified Monotub TEK (No Holes No Here are the basic steps. Feb 21, 2010 · i thought i had already made this a post but i can't seem to find it in my account so i'll post it again this is good, no more burning plastic or cracking. The tape over the holes may come in handy here. The idea of using lets say 5 quarts per tub sounds very appealing. no latching lid either. Sep 27, 2017 · Hell im up for an experiment i will try it tomm and report back. I figure something like 1 minute on / 30 mins off should be fine in an 18 gallon tub. I swear some people didn't read the first post lol. use a marker and draw your circle you are May 17, 2015 · If you don't want side pins, you've gotta make the surface more humid than the sides, or have a liner to stick to the sides for there to be no microclimate for pins in the first place. 1. They do look nice though and come in different colors too. Aug 20, 2013 · BRF cakes crumbled into Coir/Verm/Gypsum (forgot coir/verm top layer) First pins were seen 7 days later. 5" diameter, one at the top on each short end, 2 on the long ends at substrate level. You'll gain access to additional forums, file attachments, board customizations, encrypted private messages, and much more! Aug 12, 2010 · 7,924 topic views. 22 members, 116 guests and 38 web crawlers are browsing this forum. Flushes are going in halves. Quote: Munchauzen said: I don't put them in monos thou. mine are smaller. ----- Jul 27, 2020 · You can get 4-6 dry ounces from one monotub. Jan 20, 2006 · 33 gallon mono tub. I always expect it to be at least 2 weeks, and anything less than that is the result of good genetics/high spawn to substrate ratio. Apr 4, 2013 · Yea, next time make sure you block the monotub's holes, the lid should provide the GE. 2) find some PVC piping or dowel rods that can fit through the holes in your tub. There is really no need to case a monotub, a casing layer is a micro climate basically that helps maintain 100% Rh at the surface of the substrate, a properly built mono tub always has 100% Rh. You don't necessarily want it air tight but at least undisturbed. I like smaller holes because they are easier to cover and uncover. Then put all the exhaust holes at substrate level. More than a regular monotub since the holes ain't stuffed with poly. Mar 20, 2014 · Welcome to the Shroomery Message Board! You are experiencing a small sample of what the site has to offer. It's definitely a little tedious though. Should give about two air exchanges an hour. Those are cut and used to cover the bottom holes of your Then there's the "no hole" people. The lid was flipped over of course, no holes. May 29, 2017 · 3rd flush. It's by the window (slight breeze) so I cracked the lid open like 1/4in during Jan 7, 2016 · Quote: George Sears said: Just relax man. May 20, 2018 · Some people tape their holes during colonization and then stuff with polyfil when its time to fruit. Boil/pasteurize your verm+coir. Mine is 6 1,5" holes, at the same hight, i think 20 cm / 8 " from the bottom. 5" to 2" holes. You will wanna see a nice layer of condensation on your sub like this. 5 inches at the base, so it's just over a square foot of area at the base. al sn zb ho aw mm iz dm xa jl