Feb 6, 2022 · crs281 Posts: 27 Forumite. Dec 5, 2022 · PIP - has anyone had this text after assessment? 61 replies. Quote. Oct 21, 2022 · Supporting evidence for a PIP claim is useful when making a new/renewal PIP claim or when you are appealing against a PIP decision. Completed and sent back. Received a higher rate this time too. But I was called for a telephone interview in May 2021… after 10 days I received the letter but Jul 1, 2022 · Hi there. 3m in January 2024, and is forecast to increase to 4. March 2023. Posted 7 years ago, 13 users are following. Posted 7 years ago, 58 users are following. They should add a timescale for a outcome of the claim. janer1967 Community member Posts: 21,964 Disability Gamechanger. 2 days ago · Below are the conditions which people most commonly claim Personal Independence Payment (PIP) for, according to the Department for Work and Pensions (DWP). To claim PIP, you will need to fill in a form about how your condition affects you. 15 April 2021 at 2:35PM. A measure repealing Florida’s no-fault, person injury protection (PIP) auto insurance system and replacing it with an at-fault, bodily injury system has passed its second Senate Committee. The documents you sent with your claim form. Award Maintained 51%. Its PIP though, more often than not they're just bad people who don't have the best interests of the disabled, so I'm sorry this has happened to you. Cannot cook a simple meal using a conventional cooker but is able to do so using a microwave. Sorry for late reply. If you're worried about not receiving the decision letter then ring DWP to ask if a decision's been made, if it has they'll tell you. 0 · Share on Facebook Share on Twitter janer1967 Community member Posts: 21,964 Disability Gamechanger Apr 26, 2019 · 5 years 1 month ago #229645. Jan 2, 2018 · I made a claim for PIP on the 4th of November (I think), for mental health reasons. 65. I did ring and eventually got through for them to tell me they have changed their minds as we didn’t know how long the COVID pandemic would last…. It may come in useful later if they lose the information, and then claim you did not send something they asked for. Hi, I'm new here. Apr 3, 2024 · The DWP’s decision about your PIP entitlement is based on the information in: Your claim form. If you describe how nothing's changed your PIP should continue as usual until DWP makes a decision. 0 · Share on Facebook Share on Twitter janer1967 Community member Posts: 21,896 Disability Gamechanger Aug 27, 2016 · Pip decision. We could only guess why that letter was sent. It took them forever. Is it a good or a bad sign ?♀️ Aug 15, 2023 · If your PIP award is about to end, but you haven’t had a review or been contacted by the DWP, call the PIP helpline on 0800 121 4433 as soon as possible. Had my telephone consultation on the 10th January 2022. b. It is pointless, but hang on to it until they send you a decision. I received a review form a week later which is just about ready to send off. 30% of total claims. We applied in April, had a paper base assessment completed on 15th June and received a letter today (dated 29th July) saying they have enough information to make a decision. 1. a. gov. Hello from independent assessment services we conduct PIP Assessments for Department for Work and Pensions. I was awarded pip in December 2018 for 2 years. Jita76 Posts: 25 Forumite. I got the letter back with an award for a further 3 years and £1900 into my bank account. Asking on behalf of my father. 30am to 5pm Email: contactsscs@justice. 1 Central to the application of all the activities within the PIP assessment is a consideration of the manner in which they’re undertaken. Apr 29, 2024 · Official statistics also show that the PIP caseload in England and Wales has increased from 2. Jan 19, 2021 · I had the assessment on Monday just gone (18th) and then the day after (yesterday) got a further message advising me that the DWP were now in receipt of the report. I was awarded PIP last week after a previous rejected claim was reassessed due to the change in the way it is assessed/scored. Mandatory Reconsideration Request. Assessment was carried out mid December and by 24th of December I received a text message from dwp saying May 16, 2023 · L_Volunteer Community Volunteer Adviser, Scope Member Posts: 7,983 Disability Gamechanger. We changed or corrected your return. Screw ups are not unknown in the DWP. david75395. A likely explanation is the backlog created by the suspension of PIP reviews. The letters are very probably unlawful, both in terms of properly informing claimants of a legal decision and in…. Covid caused a back log due to switching from face to face to telephone assessment and the amount of claims received. January 2022 edited December 2022. treborsenoj Community member Posts: 50 Courageous. Planned award review outcomes for last five years to October 2023 are: Award Increased 19%. If you need to ask for more time to complete this form, please call us on 0800 121 4433 (0800 121 4493 if using a textphone). . Nov 23, 2021 · The PIP medical assessment consists of several parts and will last on average, 60 minutes: Discussion and questions: The Health Professional will ask you questions about how your health affects your everyday life. Replied by Gordon on topic Letter RE PIP decision. PIP2 how your disability affects you. The GPS lie as much as the assessors in my opinion. I sent evidence of hospital admissions, care plans and other evidence. Hi everyone I’m new to the site I applied for pip on July 26th with the recommendation from my doctor, I have been signed off work for the last 6 months because of my condition, I had phone consultation assessment on October 6th,on Friday 21st I had a text and a letter saying we have all the information we need but haven’t made a decision yet on your pip, today I’ve had a text saying we Jun 9, 2023 · The DWP decision maker uses the following information to decide whether you’re entitled to PIP, at what rate and for how long: The answers you put on the PIP form (‘How your disability affects you form’) Any medical evidence that your doctor, social worker, nurse or other professionals supplied. So with the increase rates in April works out about right. Can prepare and cook a simple meal unaided. Is it worth adding a note saying that nothing has changed and last time this was awarded at a tribunal. Around the middle of August 2022, they sent me the PIP review paperwork to complete, and I sent it back to them September 2023 - I actually rang them to confirm they had received it, due to the postal strikes. ) for the year shown on the letter Letter saying pip have all the information tey need and there is no need to contact them Follow Jun 20, 2017 · 20 June 2017 at 3:28PM. The income tax return (form 1040,1040-PR, 1040-NR, 1040-SR, etc. DWP could decide to: Mar 19, 2024 · Ad hoc analyses, statistics and management information. I haven't logged on for a while! I found out about 3 weeks later, I had a text message saying that I had been awarded PIP then I got the actual letter confirming my award a week or so later. On average, it takes the DWP 20 weeks from the date you started your claim to make a decision. Below The DWP might need more information to help them make a decision about your PIP award. For a descriptor to be able to apply to a claimant Jul 15, 2023 · So from then it would be about 27 weeks, if you divide £913. Though they will sometimes tell you they are from PIP, rather than saying health assessment providers. 4m in January 2021-21, to 3. 5 years 2 months ago #225727. If you have a carer, they may be able to claim extra money too. I had a phonecall about 4 weeks ago that lasted 25 minutes. That's great news @jessica141! Aug 6, 2021 · in July 2020 i applied for pip i got turned down so in the end it went to tribunal i won the case in April 2021 . This is called a mandatory reconsideration, and is the first step in the appeal process. Hi the assessors write to my gp for a health report and my gp messed things up for me! Saying I was no longer sick when I was still very disabled. 0·. It was also followed by his/her reasons for not awarding me PIP. Indeed. Feb 20, 2023 · PIP assessments are carried out using the form you complete, any supporting information you send and the assessment. Jim. I realise you're in hospital so if you can't ring yourself do you have someone that can ring on your behalf? Jul 15, 2019 · As advised, the letter is just a standard letter. I had a text message on the 2nd September saying they had all the info to make an assessment then I received a letter last week saying the same. Physical and mental examination: If required, and with your consent, they will conduct a brief physical and mental function examination. What were If you made a claim for Personal Independence Payment (PIP) and you didn't get the award that you think you were entitled to, you should challenge that decision. They might ask for a face-to-face assessment or for more information from your GP or healthcare professional. The DWP gives you 4 weeks to fill in the form and send it back. Shortly after, you’ll get a letter from Social Security Scotland to tell you: your Adult Disability Payment award start date Jun 29, 2021 · Then March 2020 lockdown happens. this morning I got a text saying they had not yet made a decision on Jan 18, 2022 · PIP 2022. Sep 2, 2021 · Just to let you know, when I was transferred from DLA they at first wanted to do an assessment, but then my CPN talked to them and said how ridiculous he has sent you loads of proper medical evidence, they then did a paper assessment for me, and it's an ongoing high rate both. I’m a new claimant of PIP, for severe depression & anxiety, I first applied on 10th March, I had my phone call assessment on the 7th June, and had a text they received my assessment on the 10th June, called on the 21st June, and was told they made a decision on the 17th, so within a week a decision was made. Find more information about Personal Independence Payment ( PIP). There is no specific format that your Mandatory Reconsideration must follow. May 21, 2024 · The decision maker will make an award of PIP based on the impact of the claimant’s health condition or disability on their daily life and their ability to live independently. Please fill in this form and return it to us by the date on your letter. I've now waited about 17 weeks since I first registered for pip. Fill in this form and take or send it to the office that sent you the decision. Only you can make the decision whether to request an MR or not, there is Case Law that if you walk in severe pain then you should be counted as being unable to walk to a necessary standard, otherwise it will be the distance you can walk before the pain stops you from walking further. - Score 2. c. Ive recorded the full telephone assesment and thefe is things left out of the decision my husband also get the LCWAWRA i think that what it is the higher payment from UC. “I have had a dreadful year regarding my PIP review. 0 · Share on Facebook Share on Twitter janer1967 Member Posts: 19,023 Disability Gamechanger Jan 9, 2024 · 110,000 planned award reviews were registered and 110,000 cleared in the quarter ending October 2023. The DWP is moving inexcusably slowly in considering the cases of PIP claimants who may be owed thousands of pounds in back payments, its latest progress report reveals. I received a text message from dwp confirming they've my how disability affects me form. This is for information purposes only, to let you know that we are managing your PIP assessment. We may send you a notice or letter if: You have a balance due. There's no mention of it being backdated though. 300,000 cases were Jun 22, 2021 · HI, I will post an update as a separate post in case it is useful for anyone but thought I would let you know here that I have received a payment from PIP this morning, although I haven't had the decision letter yet, so 20 days from the telephone assessment to the payment for me. I received a letter a couple of days ago, with it being dated the 21st of December, and it stated that they, ‘now have all the information we need to make a decision’. Update, iv had a text sayin iv been awarded so must of sent the text out about not makin a decision once it was with the case manager. Today I received my PIP review letter stating we must have this back by 18th September 2021. Your refund has changed. (textphone: 0800 121 4493) If you are told that your PIP award is likely to end before an assessment can be carried out, make a complaint. This guide will help you decide if you should ask the DWP to look at their decision again - to see if it was correct. Activity 1. 0 · Share on Facebook Share on Twitter janer1967 Member Posts: 19,350 Disability Gamechanger HM Courts and Tribunal Service Telephone: 0300 123 1142 Monday to Friday, 8. Oct 15, 2021 · I had my telephone assessment 1st September, but applied beginning of April. i got the letter today to say they cant award me pip as they didn't receive my further information in time. Some claims take less time; some take more. I was sent the pip form. The questions in the PIP review form are based on the same everyday tasks and activities that are covered by the PIP claim form, for example preparing food, mixing with other people and moving around. I've known people wait 6-8 weeks after receiving that letter. Preparing food. On the 11th January 2022 I received a text saying they had received my report and it Sep 18, 2021 · I had my review in January 2020. Hi, I had a PIP letter through saying "We now have all the information we need to make a decision". 0 · Share on Facebook Share on Twitter janer1967 Community member Posts: 21,964 Disability Gamechanger Jul 28, 2021 · July 2021 edited July 2021 in PIP, DLA, and AA In the process of an appeal but got a letter from dfc to say they have all information needed and will be in touch when they have made a decision. The DWP has to notify the claimant in writing, not everybody has a mobile or has given the number to the DWP, unfortunately, letters often take 7-10 days to arrive. Good afternoon. You will need to phone them and tell them why you need more time. I then received a DWP letter with an extension until May 2021 After receiving the first letter for an extension from DWP for May 2021 I received another one again and an extension until AUG 2021. Options. Feb 6, 2019 · Offline. I applied for pip via writing back in November 2020 in feb 2021 received the pip1 form in the post filled it out same day got it sent off, rang pip several weeks later asking if they had received the pip1 form, they said no. So, long story short, I was awarded PIP for 4 years, which should have taken me to the end of 2022. I've read articles saying previous failed attempts of getting PIP could be backdated to May 2016, and my initial The Department of Work and Pensions (DWP) is checking more than 320,000 existing PIP claims after a Daily Living assessment rule change Apr 3, 2023 · 2. How your disability affects you. This week he had a phone call saying they had received his report and they were only calling to verify who he was, asked his date of Jul 20, 2023 · The DWP will usually start to review your claim one year before your award ends. The longest a BB can be awarded for is 3 years or for the length of the PIP award, which ever is sooner. Ask the DWP for more time if you need it. Timescales can still be 2-12 weeks after this letter. As of October 2023, these five conditions comprised over 85% of total claims. Jul 16, 2019 · We could only guess why that letter was sent. See advice for Northern Ireland, Scotland, Wales. Letter from pip saying they have all the information 2021. You’ll get a letter from DWP to tell you when they’ve started the process of moving your benefit. They did say within 8 weeks I'll hear. In the first instance, you should complain to the Nov 14, 2022 · I was sent a letter back in 2021, saying that due to COVID, they were extending my PIP to June 2023. When the DWP reviews your claim, they send you a letter with a PIP review form. But i think it took so long because covid hit bad in the area and there wasn’t anyone to do assessments. The DWP have sent out up to a million misleading letters designed prevent tens of thousands of potentially eligible PIP claimants receiving thousands of pounds each in arrears. Yet, the waiting times fall short of 42 weeks for new claims seen in 2014. In Nov I received a letter saying my award had been “extended” to Oct 2021?! The DWP might need more information to help them make a decision about your PIP award. We have a question about your return. In Nov I received a letter saying my award had been “extended” to Oct 2021?! September 2021 edited September 2021 in PIP, DLA, and AA pip received my assesment report on the 9th aug i received a letter on 25th august to say they had got all the information they needed to make a decision i applied back in march its now 15th sept and still heard nothing has anyone else waited this long or am i being impatient However it could be a very bad random thing, but they should have made more effort to contact you, ideally by text or calling if your date was changed. Lisatho11987777 Scope Member Posts: 5,911 Disability Gamechanger. Nov 18, 2022 · I get what you are saying. Feb 17, 2021 · Sen. Suboptimalsitch · 05/12/2022 10:39. Personal Independence Payment ( PIP) can help with extra living costs if you have both: a long-term physical or mental Feb 3, 2021 · Usually if PIP ring it won't be from a private number, it's usually a 0800 number. Still awaiting pip decision letter. 1·. Jay. These are example forms and letters for information only. The health professional’s notes from the medical assessment. Received A letter from pip saying to redo Pip 1 fo was created by cat. Telephone: 0800 121 4433. Medical evidence (records, prescriptions, letters from medical professionals). We need to verify your identity. Would they have this information to hand. 2. Daily routine diary and personal statement. this morning I have had a letter from pip saying they’ve got all the information they need to make a decision the letter dated 12th so before they sent the text. My fybromyalgia is getting worse I have heart problems and walking is impossible most of the time daily pain is unbearable. Feb 8, 2022 · In total, 45 per cent of claimants said they would prefer telephone and 42 per cent face-to-face. Two weeks ago I wrote to pip as I still hadn’t received anything about a review. 6 February 2022 at 6:59PM. This includes stress, anxiety, mood Jan 18, 2023 · January 2023. uk. Our clever tool writes the letter for you, that you need to send to the DWP . FWIW, the "we now have all the information we need" letter was dated 7th June and the award notification was dated 12th June - in case this is of use to anyone else reading. Constantly sat with no update is something many people complain about & ends up with people calling for updates & delaying other callers. Relay UK - if you can't hear or speak on the phone, you can type what you want to say: 18001 then 0800 121 4433. Supporting evidence can come in the form of: Statement from a carer, friend or family member. – Score 0. So yes the assessors do sometimes write to GPS. You’ll have to describe how you’re now finding each task or activity. Oct 21, 2020 · Pip stopped without warning. We’re delayed in processing your return. It took the tribunal about 3mins to decide that I was entitled to PIP. Jun 12, 2023 · Well, I received my PIP award letter - all is as I'd hoped for, thankfully. It's rather a pointless letter and causes nothing more than more stress. EDIT. Apr 20, 2021 · 30. I applied on the 13th September 2021. I've know people wait just 2 weeks. Im very new to pip. It all depends on back log. That would mean you have been awarded High rate Care Low rate Mobility as the difference between low rare care and high rate care is currently £33. I realise you're in hospital so if you can't ring yourself do you have someone that can ring on your behalf? Feb 12, 2021 · How long until I receive PIP decision? Nicky73 Community member Posts: 13 Listener. The Senate Judiciary Committee on February 15 passed SB 54, which would do away with PIP, raise required coverage limits on policies Jun 13, 2022 · June 2022. I just assumed now it's at the appeal stage the dfc just liase with the tribunal not me. Aug 1, 2023 · Hi all, I am claiming PIP on behalf of my 16 year daughter. Dec 14, 2021 · DWP management information has identified that, as of 1 November 2021: 260,000 cases were in the group identified as unlikely to benefit from a review, against the MH decision. The only way you'll know what that letter is about is to ring DWP and ask. Danny Burgess. You may then be invited to have an assessment with a health professional. Jun 17, 2022 · I'd say it's unusual not to be awarded anything when having a paper based assessment because if they don't have enough evidence to award something I believe they'd have to then do an assessment with you. In August 2021 I retired and received my pension and pension credit. yes. The length of award Jan 28, 2021 · Its a standard letter, which basically means as it says, they have all the information and a decision maker will make a decision in due course. Personal Independence Payment (PIP) enquiry line. Got a text 2 days later from DWP to say they’d recevied it and they’ll write back when they’d made a decision - probably within 8 weeks. Dianaf Community memberPosts: 30Connected. The pension credit stopped on March 3rd Nov 5, 2023 · Published: 05 November 2023. If you do not return this form to us by this date, we may end your PIP claim. It arrived in April 2021, a full year before my extended end date. Feb 7, 2021 · Under guidance from the Electoral Commission and Charity Commission, it's important that Scope remains politically neutral during General Elections. 0 · Share on Facebook Share on Twitter janer1967 Community member Posts: 21,964 Disability Gamechanger May 26, 2022 · Other benefits and premiums affected. 7m by 2028-29. Its a standard letter, which basically means as it says, they have all the information and a decision maker will make a decision in due course. I need a bit of input regarding a text I received yesterday which said. it plainly states on the PIP doesn’t have a negative effect on any other benefit you claim. While we understand that this period will see many passionate discussions and do not want to discourage open discussion, we cannot allow discussions which are purely intended to influence voting. Hi, Thank you for letting me part of this forum. I've had my face to face consultation over 3 weeks ago and firstly I received a text message to say they had all the info needed to decide my pip claim and will receive a decision letter once it has been made, then recieve another letter 2 weeks later saying they have all the Its a standard letter, which basically means as it says, they have all the information and a decision maker will make a decision in due course. February 2021 edited February 2021. I get what you mean about the BB, mine ran out 3 times in 2021 so had to apply 3 times for a new one because my PIP was extended twice. July 2023. And that's it, nothing else, I had my review 4 weeks ago and this letter is dated a week ago, I got a text around 5 days after my assessment saying they Its a standard letter, which basically means as it says, they have all the information and a decision maker will make a decision in due course. Jun 12, 2024 · If you receive an IRS notice or letter. Previous releases. August 2021 edited August 2021 in PIP, DLA, and AA Hey quick question I applied for pip just waiting on a decision ive just got a letter saying they have all info they need to make decision has anyone else had that thank you x Apr 15, 2021 · PIP phone call after the assessment. Feb 1, 2021 · Your 5071C letter, 5747C letter or 5447C letter 4. Have you heard back yet? Keeping my fingers crossed for you. Regardless of whatever decision I receive I cannot fault the DWP in how they have conducted my claim. Good luck and hope decision doesn't take too long! PIP1 claim form. My payments stop in October 2021 so i have renewed my application sent that off over a month ago i sent my medical documentation last week. Textphone: 0800 121 4493. I'm claiming PIP as I can't work due to my bipolar,I had the ATOS assessment a month ago and a text from DWP a week ago to say they have all they need and are making a decision,I have been beside myself with worry,anybody assure me at Oct 23, 2021 · October 2021 edited October 2021 in PIP, DLA, and AA Hi, so i got my husband decision letter and report through this morning. I don't have a current view of PIP Decision times but a month ago we were quoting 10 weeks. Your call is likely to be free of charge if you have a phone deal that includes free calls to landlines – find out more about calling 030 numbers . 21 October 2020 at 2:11AM. If you’re worried, you can call the PIP enquiry line to check they’ve got your form. Good afternoon hope you are all having a good day. Their report on me was a pack of vile lies. DWP could decide to: Jun 13, 2023 · If none of the above apply, DWP will select those furthest from their PIP review date to have their benefit moved first. As a letter saying "we now have all the information we need to make a decision" is just the sort of update people need. Award Review forms. It doesn't mean you'll get both elements or the higher rates though. A private number suggests it may have been the health assessment providers, who also sometimes ring if they have any questions to ask. Apr 30, 2021 · 2 years 10 months ago #258883. Does anyone know the timeframe and does anyone know if a paper based assessment is a positive thing? Apr 16, 2021 · Hi all just getting round to filling in the PIP form. This impacted my Blue Badge renewal which I could only get for one year. Hello everyone, today I received a letter from the PIP saying that I scored zero points on everything and that I will no longer be getting DLA. its the not knowing and having to wait so long. Psychiatric disorders - 1,253,056 claims - 37. Nov 20, 2023 · October 2023: Text from Independent Assessment Services saying we have your PIP form November 2023 : Called Independent Assessment Services to see if there’s any update and they told me I’d “due” an assessment and asked me to attend an assessment two days later I can’t go into detail, but I was involved in the Supreme Court case, known as MM involving social support, so I’m not unfamiliar with the systems and processes. Your original claim back in 2018 would have a review date, reviewed in 2021 and you say due for review about now. The DWP frequently make wrong decisions. Although the DWP claim the review will be completed in 2025, at the present rate, some claimants may be left waiting a total of more than 8 years Jun 19, 2022 · Hello I received a text message first saying they've received my written report after 2 weeks I received a letter they have all the information they need to make a decision and then I received another letter saying they need more information before they can progress the claim it was asking for a appointee information and details of them in the meantime can they still make a decision without Mar 2, 2023 · poppy123456 Community member Posts: 56,147 Disability Gamechanger. Hi. tracy69588. Hi all, I applied for PIP last October 2020, I finally had my assessment on February 4th 2021 dwp received my report back and I got a text message on the February 7th 2021 to say they got it. My phone assessment was 18 November. Mar 15, 2018 · Replied by Gordon on topic Still waiting pip. Those who were awarded PIP were more likely to favour telephone Nov 14, 2020 · Nov 142020. He had his telephone assessment for PIP two weeks ago (this is his first time claiming). Some claimants have received a letter from DWP, similar to the one below, informing them that DWP has now begun reviewing PIP awards after suspending them because of the Covid 19 outbreak, and that their PIP awards have now been extended until 2022. Your claim will be assessed using a points system. Sep 16, 2021 · In a recently released UK Government paper, the DWP stated that by January 17, 2021, the total amount of arrears payments made to PIP claimants since June 2018 is estimated at £32 million. 61 by 27 it's approx £33 per week. hols84 Posts: 7 Forumite. The number of planned award reviews cleared has increased by 68% compared to the same period last year. More. If you haven't had a decision letter from the Tribunal then it's unlikely that they've made a decision. Received the no decision text yesterday morning. To get details on an IRS notice or letter, search for it by number Apr 16, 2021 · I can’t go into detail, but I was involved in the Supreme Court case, known as MM involving social support, so I’m not unfamiliar with the systems and processes. This is just a standard letter they send everyone and doesn't mean anything. Fill in the form using the notes that come with it. PIP Letter but not decision was created by MAC. June 2022. Others had no strong preference. Needs to use an aid or appliance to be able to either prepare or cook a simple meal. Send the form and any supporting information you have not shared with the Department for Work and Pensions (DWP) before - the form explains what Aug 21, 2023 · I then got a letter then saying they have all the information they need to make a decision this was back in May 2023, then another repeat letter in July 2023 i haven'theard anything from them yet. With many thanks to Benefits And Work. Before I write down lines from their report as well as my rebuttals Jun 9, 2016 · Had pip assessment Waiting decision. People moving up from Disability Living Allowance to the new PIP benefit are seeing waiting times closer to 14 weeks for the process to complete. As really was a waste of time and money have to go to the tribunal. A PIP medical assessment report by an Aug 31, 2021 · Received a letter from PIP in November 2020 stating my PIP reward had been extended until 18th July 2022. Biblioklept Community member Posts: 4,764 Disability Gamechanger. The entire procedure saw a rise from ten (10) weeks to thirteen (13) weeks for new PIP claims since October 2016. jk cc ds lz jz cw xd nb ee ha